Steve Hayner (cont’d)
a lot of this so reminds me of kaleidoscopic input. there isnt’ anything systematic about this book (An Emergent Manifesto of Hope). it reminds me about “Wikikklesia“. read more here…
let’s look at a variety of theological pieces here, as kind of a kaleidoscope. these are some places, snapshots of some of the conversations. i’m in a rather long conversation with ed stetzer…but the very fact that you can have these conversations is a remarkable kind of thing….
one piece is that emergent church have a kind of incarnational paradigm about the world. which means, they are neither world-fearing, nor embracing all culture. a world-fearing stance has given rise to the culture wars. the world is a bad place means that if we can’t change it, we need to guard ourselves against it. home schooling and a variety of movements lead to protecting ourselves against it.
another stance is culture-embracing. anything that is out there is good and we embrace it all. that is a stance that religious people have taken.
the emergent people have taken the stance that says we are going to engage the world. this is going to sound very reformed. the emergent world talks about creatively engaging the world. acknowledging that evil does exist and the world is a challenging place. sin is individual and corporate, but God in Jesus, moved into the neighborhood. God took a risk and incarnated. when God came there was an understanding that this was dangerous, there was a war going on, but that change could take place.
it’s not about sacred on the one hand, and secular on the other. it’s about ‘this is my father’s world’, therefore the image of God can be seen in certain ways in the world and in creation itself. and god is in the process of redeeming this world.
secondly, there is a holistic view of salvation. neither salvation as saving souls. there is a whole chunk of the world that talks about salvation as saving souls. the emerging church doesn’t talk much about souls, but about people. neither is salvation as liberating the oppressed.” neither conservatives – souls, or liberal – oppressed. salvation is about a bigger picture, rather healing all that is broken.restoration of God’s kingdom and redeem creation. the fall has more implications than between humanity in God. those who care about salvation, to talk about salvation only in terms of a broken relationship with God, as only alienation with God is that there are other consequences of the fall. in Gen 2-3, other consequences are deprivation, suddenly humanity experiences want – no food, no clothing. the essentials of life become difficult to work with. it’s hard to survive. in addition to that, it’s also a world of oppression. there is a misuse of power….
reconciliation is God’s answer to alienation.
compassion is God’s answer to deprivation
God’s answer to oppression is justice.
salvation is defined in a more holistic way. it’s not just getting people right with God. Not just Jesus saved my soul, we’re done, but until all of creation is done, then we’re not done.